wife to applebees to buy her a steak. >> you cannot put a price on time. >> absolutely. it is the thought that counts. >> "fox & friends" starts now. goodbye. >>gretchen: good morning. today is wednesday, february 13, 2013. i'm gretchen carlson. thanks for sharing your time today. fox news alert. a burned body found inside the cabin where a suspected cop killer started a shootout with police and brand-new video of the fiery encounter. we're live in california with the major developments overnight. >>steve: the president of the united states gives a state of the union speech, promising spending, a lot more spending and then some more spending. but don't worry, it's not going to cost anybody anything. >> let me repeat: nothing i'm proposing tonight should increase our deficit by a single dime. >>steve: that's great.

but how does the president plan to pay for a long list of very expensive items? we're going to talk about that. >>brian: while that was going on, there's this. he's the best in the show. the westminster kennel club dog show had all breeds barking for the big one. but only one could take home the title. and the winner will be here live. i'll warn you, he's had a long night. "fox & friends" starts right now. >>gretchen: good morning everybody. we begin this morning with a fox news alert because that fugitive ex-cop wanted in a revenge-filled killing spree believed to be dead. police said they found a charred body inside a cabin where it is believed christopher dorner was hiding. however they have yet to confirm his identity.

>> good morning, gretchen and friends. forensic testing will need to be done on the remains inside that charred cabin. however, the manhunt is essentially over. we'll get to more on that in a minute. first, we want folks to take a listen here as a local tv news crew got a little too close to the action.: [gunshots] >> the crew we are told is okay but what was happening at that time according to authorities is the second gun battle dorner had with authorities yesterday before that cabin was engulfed in flames. prior they said they caught up with him in a stolen truck where he attempted to shoot at them from inside the vehicle. >> we believe that someone was inside, and that was the person that stole the

vehicle and fled and then abandoned the vehicle, ran into the forest and inside this cabin where he barricaded himself and was engaged in gunfire with our deputy sherrif, shot twaof twaof -- two of our deputy sherrifs and one of those deputies died. >> that deputy died at the hospital but the other survived. 33-year-old dorner was hiding out not far where deputies were having briefings and he might still be there if two people arrived aot a cabin to clean it and surprised him. the first of four funerals will be held today, gretchen. this will be a riverside police officer who was ambushed by dorner according to authorities while he was at a stoplight.

pwraoeup -- >>brian: is there any thought there could have been anyone involved, at least aiding him with ammunition and supplies? >> that is part of the investigation at this point. we are expecting to get some updates today from the los angeles police department and also the san bernardino sherrifs department which is actually right behind me because he did have multiple weapons. and when that fire was going on in the cabin, you could hear a lot of popping. that was going on. that was the ammunition going off. this is part of the investigation. he alluded to some people who he knew in the manifesto. he alluded to many people. but there is a big question over whether or not somebody did help him out. >>brian: thanks so much, alicia, in the mountains of california. >>gretchen: and 25 yards from where the police were having press conferences for all these days, he was apparently in this house that close where he left that burned-out car as well. >>brian: as much as he's a killing machine, he let

the maids live, the guy with the boat, he let him hraoeufplt there were certain people -- let them live. there were certain people he left oefrplt >>steve: it took about 15 minutes to get down the hall there in the house of representatives chamber last night for the joint session of congress for the state of the union address. the president of the united states, it sounds like he had an agenda that was largely things we had heard before. he was talking a lot about -- we're going to go through the laundry list in a bit. the main thing is we're going to spend a lot more money. >> tonight i propose we use some of our oil and gas revenues to fund an energy security trust. i propose a fix-it first program, to put people to work as soon as possible on our most urgent repairs like the nearly 70,000

structurally deficient bridges across the country. no one who works full time should have to live in poverty and raise the federal minimum wage to $9 an hour. tonight i propose working with states to make high-quality preschool available to every single child in america. nothing i'm proposing tonight should increase our deficit by a single dime. >>steve: probably just about $1 trillion. >>gretchen: as we remember interviewing gene sperling, the economic advisor to the president, talking about investments -- that is the new buzzword. they're not going to say stimulus because the president himself said some of those shovel-ready jobs in the last stimulus round didn't work. now they're renaming it to investments the the minimum wage from $7 to $9. expanding preschool programs, $40 billion

towards infrastructure and promoting climate change. the quote of the night it is not a bigger government we need. it is a smarter government. >>brian: the president can deliver a speech. he was totally in his element yesterday. he looked totally -- anyone who wants to do well in front of a crowd, you look at bill clinton, ronald reagan and i think president obama. here's the area on which they can agree. immigration reform, both sides agree. voting reform, both sides agree. tax reform, both sides agree. how are they going to do it? at least we know they can approach that together. the spending stuff, why isn't anybody talking about a infrastructure bank, maybe a combination or mostly private banks who have all this money and don't want to spend it or lend it, maybe the government can push the private banks lending into build these bridges in a way in which states can pay back or the people can pay back. >>steve: you were taublging about what a great -- talking about what a great speech the president of the united states gave. there's franken. were you watching john boehner? that guy looked like the guy at the end of a big

dinner who got stuck with a really big tab. marco rubio had the job of having to do the rebuttal for the republican party. if you missed that, it went a little like this. >> mr. president, i don't oppose your plan because i want to protect the rich. i oppose your plan because i want to protect my neighbors. hard-working middle class americans who don't need us to come up with a plan to grow the government. they need a plan to grow the middle class. economic growth is the best way to help the middle class. unfortunately, our economy actually shrank during the last three months of 2012. but if we can get the economy to grow at just 4% a year, it would create middle-class jobs. and it would reduce our deficits by almost $4 trillion over the next decade. >>gretchen: that was senator marco rubio from florida, the republican, only 41 years old getting that prime spot there. he's going to be joining the show live to talk more about what his reaction was

to the president's speech. 7:20 a.m. eastern time. >>brian: i thought his personal story sold his speech. just when you think they're going to push republicans for saying you're just for the rich or you want to destroy the lives of old people or the poor people, he said i live in the same middle class place i live now. my mom is on medicare. why would i want to destroy that? but we have different approaches on how to do it. to me, you saw two very smart, intelligent people who might be able to get together on these issues that matter so much. they have a totally different approach. but i definitely could see for the first time he was nervous. >>steve: he was a little nervous. the whole thing the mainstream media is talking about this morning, the fact that about three-quarters of the way through the speech, what did he do? he reached for a bottle of water. whoever did the stagecraft there, the bottle of water was way over. he had to go over there. there were all sofrts of

hash tags -- all sorts of hash tags, they referred to it as watergate. my favorite was "zero dark thirsty." >>brian: i thought the content of the speech was fantastic. >>steve: yet all they're talking about is the water bottle. >>gretchen: it's a big stage. it's always an impossible situation to follow the president of the united states. he's got this great setting and a big crowd. it's tough, republican or democrat, to follow it. >>steve: there is one other thing and that is it is always one shot. during the state of the union they've got 50 cameras and you're always seeing somebody taking a drink of water behind the president. the president of the united states can take a drink of water and nobody sees it. but with one shot, no cut-aways you're bound to see it. >>brian: the cinematography. >>steve: very pretty. >>gretchen: the government being sued, accused of covering up details and being negligent in the shooting of two

immigration and customs enforcement agents. zapato was shot by members of a drug cartel. his partner was seriously wounded. zapato's parents say the agents shouldn't have been sent on such a dangerous mission. carnival cruise line says it is sorry thousands of people are stranded on a ship in the middle of the gulf but the passengers are exaggerating how bad the situation is. i don't know, some of the stuff i read this morning was pretty disgusting. the company is disputing claims there is no running water or working toilets. carnival says most of the plumbing is working and there are no immediate health concerns. today is the fourth day the ship has been floating in the gulf after a fire broke out on sunday. a woman who was on the same ship two weeks ago said there were problems then. >> i was very upset when i saw this because we had the same problem on the same ship, and they should have fixed it before they sent

these people out there. >>gretchen: tugboats are now pulling that ship to mobile, alabama. it is expected to arrive tomorrow. the 21-year-old son of basketball legend larry bird accused of trying to run his ex-girlfriend over with a car. police say the trouble began after connor bird and the woman got into a fight at his apartment at indiana university. he's also facing charges for possessing marijuana. there is a new top dog in america this morning. >> best in show winner, for the 137th westminster dog show. >>gretchen: that little guy, banana joe, a five-year-old from the netherlands became the first in his breed to take the top title at the westminster dog show. the crowd favorite was the old english sheep dog named swagger. swagger was the runner-up. coming up in a few minutes

on "fox & friends," the adorable banana joe will be here live. >>brian: have you ever seen that dog? >>gretchen: i have not. i was watching last night with my daughter, and she was -- we were trying to figure out, why do those dog judges who have on beautiful gowns and sparkly slippers, why do they feel the dog from head to toe? i know they're probably checking their teeth to make sure they're straight. i get the tail thing to make sure there is no crink in the tail but what else are they checking for? >>brian: i don't know. straight ahead, she's the army sergeant credited with stopping the shooting rampage at fort hood but she says president obama betrayed her and the other victims. >>steve: she got a c-plus

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>>steve: yesterday was mardi gras. today is ash wednesday, the first day of lent. this morning pope benedict xvi held a service, his first public announcement since announcing he's going to resign at the end of this month. our fox news religious correspondent, father jonathan morris joins us live. good morning to you. >> blessed ash wednesday >>steve: thank you. you were with us when we discovered he is going to retire. since then we've gotten more news and that is apparently the holy father got some part replaced on

his pacemaker. >> that's right. years ago he had a pacemaker put in, and then about a month or so ago he had -- or a couple of months ago he had the pacemaker battery replaced. i think it's a pretty normal thing. i think the big news here, steve, is that while many people were saying there must be something else behind the news; it can't be that he's actually resigning on his own free will for the sake of the church. it turns out it looks like it's the case. >>steve: it certainly does. health reasons. those are live pictures of st. peter's square in vatican city, where you used to work for a number of years. i know he's still the pope until the end of the month. they would like a new pope by easter, which is 46 days from right now. we've got a list of some of the top contenders. i don't want you to analyze all of them but tell us generally. a lot of americans go why can't we have an american pope. why can't we have an american pope? >> we can.

we don't know if we will. we can. there are 117 cardinals that will be voting in this conclave. 117, all cardinals who are under the age of 80. it could be any one of them. very few people guessed cardinal rapsinger at the time. >>steve: because today is ash wednesday, many people may be unfamiliar is lent. what is lent? >> preparation of a time for easter. we think of how much goes into preparation for the super bowl. we had for days people getting ready talking about the best food and all the rest. how about getting ready for a wedding? how much does a bride or groom put into getting ready for a wedding? these are 46 days in preparation for easter, getting our mind, body and spirit in order. >>steve: ever since i was a little boy, and i remember the sisters said okay, steve -- the entire class -- you're going to have to give up something for lent. that is a custom where if

you're between the ages of about 15 and 60 you're going to give something up? >> that's right. it is not just about giving something up. this year i put on my own website, father fatherjonathan.com, lent challenge 2013. what to do in mind, body and soul. giving up something but then adding something. the goal is how do i get myself ready for the great celebration of easter. >>steve: how do people find that? >> go to fatherjonathan.com. i'm going to be putting updates every day on facebook and twitter how to live during this time, whether you're catholic or another denomination or you want to use this season to more intensely get your mind, body and soul in order. >>steve: thank you. straight ahead on the rundown, the president talked a lot about investments last night, but stu varney said don't let the "investment" word fool you. he's here to decode what

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debaters" in 2007 so it is being shut down. her company reportedly will only focus on tv projects. >>gretchen: despite the recent scrutiny on spending, president obama pushed for more spending in last night's state of the union speech. but he didn't use that "s" word. >> let's set party interest aside and work to pass a budget that replaces reckless cuts with smart savings and wise investments in our future. it is not a bigger government we need, but a smarter government that sets priorities and invests in broad-based growth. we want to make the best products. we also have to invest in the best ideas. now is not the time to gut these job-creating investments in science and innovation. today no area holds more promise than our investments in american energy. >>gretchen: is the word investment code for more spending? stuart varney from varney and company. i would say there is

another "s" as well which is stimulus. you no longer hear that word because that had a connotation. although research shows spending also has a bad connotation. 87% of americans believe we have a spending problem. >> the president used the word investment or invests 13 times. he did not use the word spending. but that is what his policy is about. he wants to spend more government money. to him, it's government that's going to stimulate the economy. it's government that is going to create jobs. he proposed a pretty long list of government spending programs in his speech last night. for example, universal preschool, that's a brand-new, huge entitlement essentially. he wants $50 billion on road and bridge building. he wants a new energy security trust fund to spend money on green energy. he wants to set up 15 manufacturing hubs where manufacturers can go and get advice from the government. essentially a lot more government spending.

it is a mini stimulus plan is what he came up with. >>gretchen: he also wants to increase minimum wage. that would be great for people who are working at those jobs but possibly bad for small businesses who have to pay higher wages. >> look down the line for a second. are we going to get real growth in this economy and a whole lot of new jobs created by this increase in government spending paid for by higher taxes? that's a repeat performance of what we've had for four years. >>gretchen: it's a repeat performance because he won the election so he fields emboldened -- he feels emboldened by those same policies. i think it is great to invest but who is going to pay for it? >> more taxes by closing loopholes on wealthy people. more taxes on corporations, especially the money they make overseas. and a lot more tax on oil companies. you raise a lot of money from taxing and you spend it on these new government programs. what we desperately need in america is 4%, 5%, 6%

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>> we have coverage of a fox news alert. christopher dorner is believed to have been killed inside that burning cabin yesterday after a deadly shootout with the cops out west. though authorities still have not identified his body, brand-new audio just in from the man who was carjacked yesterday by fugitive ex-cop christopher dorner. listen to this guy's account of what happened. >> i saw movement in the trees, and it was christopher dorner. he came out on to the road out of the snow, and he

pointed his big rifle at me in my truck. i stopped, put my truck in park, put my hands up. >>brian: former d.c. homicide detective rod joins us now. you heard that guy. he did not kill him. chris dorner only killed a certain amount of people, yet even at the end he was diabolical and clear minded enough to try to survive to get out of that house. how do you profile this guy? >> christopher dorner held true to his manifesto. in his manifesto, everybody he talked about killing had something to do with law enforcement and everybody that he did ultimately kill unfortunately, was either a law enforcement officer or the family members of law enforcement officers. the guy yesterday from the audio, he's not the only one that christopher dorner did not shoot. he had taken two women hostage when he broke into their cabin. he let them go as well. he didn't shoot them. i think he held true to his

manifesto, which is not unusual for a person who engages in asymmetrical warfare, which he said he wagoing to do. and he did that. >>steve: he was certainly smart. you mentioned the two women. things happened when these two maids showed up at his cabin. it was tuesday, the day they were supposed to clean it. and there he was. surprise, surprise. >> that's right. you know what? he stole their vehicle. he didn't shoot them. let's go back a little bit. remember he went to san diego and he was going to try to steal a boat, and he actually pointed a handgun at the boat owner, but he didn't shoot the boat owner. the boat owner was not in law enforcement. again, i think this guy was holding true to what he set out to do. his plan was to shoot as many law enforcement guys as he could. >>gretchen: what do you make of the fact that he was in this house nearby where they were holding press conferences, where the media was, where this barrage of police officers were, 25 to 30 yards away all that time? >> exactly.

gretchen, here's the thing that is important with that piece of this. the police never really thought that this guy dorner ever left that area. let me tell you why. they never broke down their command center. they kept the command center at the big bear mountain. when christopher dorner's truck caught on fire, he left two ar-15's in the trunk, high-powered weapons. a criminal won't leave those types of weapons in their vehicle. they won't leave that behind unless they're on foot because they don't want to carry them. that's why the police believed throughout this entire ordeal that this guy was still in the mountains somewher they knew it was a matter of time before they could find him. >>brian: you know what this made me think? if one guy could do this damage with some training, police training, i'm wondering what a network of guys could do if they decided to wreak havoc in any major city? >> the only thing i can say to that, brian, is that we in law enforcement, we prepare day in and day out for individuals like this.

it's unfortunate that we have to. but i can tell you that most police departments, if not all police departments across the country, we're prepared to deal with whatever comes our way. >>brian: does it disturb you how many fans he has on twitter? they're actually rooting him on. try to profile that. >> it's unbelievable. i'm not a psychiatrist. the only thing i can say is christopher dorner set out to harm people. he harmed innocent people. we all have grievances. one wayhat we do not settle our grievances is by using violence. >>gretchen: four people died because of this horrible situation. the latest one yesterday who had just had a brand-new baby. horrible story. rod whao*el, thank -- rod wheelr thank you. she is the police sergeant who helped stop the fort hood gunman and sat next to the first lady at the 2010

state of the union. now she doesn't have a job. and she says other victims have been betrayed by president obama. >> not to the least little bit have the victims been taken care of. they have been neglected very badly. >>gretchen: the victims are suing the military since the obama administration classified the attack as workplace violence and not domestic terrorism. that means diminished access to medical care and financial benefits. >>steve: there may be a new reason for women to take follow -- fol i c acid while pregnant. it could prevent autism. experts warn more research needs to be done. in 2013 one in 88 kids had autism. >>brian: a former grad student suing lehigh university in pennsylvania for over $a -- over a million dollars because she

received a bad grade. she say the c-plus she received praoepbted -- prevented her from moving forward. the school says the student deserved the grade she got. >>steve: the conclusion of the world-famous westminster kennel club dog show had all the breeds barking for the big win but only one could take the title of best in show. roll the tape. >> best in show winner for the 137th westminster kennel club dog show. >>gretchen: banana joe joins us now. good morning to all three of you. what stkos it feel -- what does it feel like to be called the winner? >> it's hard to describe. when it actually happens it is unbelievable. >>brian: tell me about banana joe.

i've never seen a dog like this. >> he is an affenpinscher. a german dog. they possess a specific intelligence about them. they are almost human somehow. >>brian: what was it about him that had the judges say that's the one. >> underneath that coat he was as solid as any of the big dogs, never took a wrong step. always been a great little showman. he's had a wonderful career. this was his 86th best in show. >>steve: where does banana joe, the name come from? bananas are yellow, the dog is black. >> it is the monkey dog. they named him in the netherlands where he was born. he came with a name to this country and lived up to everything -- >>steve: what do you mean

monkey dog? >> because of the look. look at that face. >>gretchen: david, i was watching last night with my daughter who loves dog. she had so many questions. why do they feel the dogs from top to bottom? >> you've got to feel what's under that coat and make sure the dog is put together the way it's supposed to be put together. we say a great groomer can carve a great dog out of a pile of hair. it creates illusions. >>brian: can i take a page from donald trump and give you an idea. there is an all-star apprentice. why can't we have an all-star westminster dog show? >> we would say there is no such thing as a past winner at westminster. >>gretchen: what is the quality you look for? the dogs, they're all different breeds and they're so different. what is it?

>> they are all great specimens of their greed by the time they get to that final seven. but when you get there at the end, you've got to own the ground you stand over and have that showmanship, that personality, pizzazz, whatever you want to call it. >>brian: i know you put a lot of work into this. a great moment for both of you. >> it was; that's for sure. i had him for two years now. that's how long he's been showing the country. it's a wonderful ride. >>brian: he deserves a bowl of beck's beer. fellows, thanks so much. we know you've got a busy day today. tradition continues. >>gretchen: thank you, david. coming up on "fox & friends," last night the president did not take action on looming spending cuts to our military. instead he blamed congress. is that really the right message to send to our enemies? army major general bob scales will weigh in on it next. >>steve: even more sunshine could be headed to the sunshine state?

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>>gretchen: 45 minutes after the top of the hour. if you're just waking up, quick headlines for you. more sunshine in the sunshine state. one state senator pushing for florida to have daylight saving time year round. he says it will help the state's economy by allowing more people to visit places like beaches, restaurants and amusement parks. this deer outruns an avalanche. it sparked the avalanche and does a back flip over the wave of snow. it looks like he might get swallowed up but he skis out unscathed. unbelievable. brian? >>brian: is that real? in last night's state of the union address, president obama blamed congress for severe cuts that could be coming to our

military, sequester looming march 1. he announced further withdrawal of troops from afghanistan. i think 30,000-plus by 2014. is the white house sending the wrong message to our enemies like north korea and the muslim brotherhood by scaling back our military? fox news military analyst major general bob scales with us right now. what did you get from last night's speech from the military perspective? >> frankly, brian, it was frightening. i was hoping for some statement, some commitment that sequestration wouldn't happen. i've been through this three times in my lifetime. i saw the army break after vietnam. i lived through the hollow army of the late 1970's. i personally, we all personally paid the price for the peace dividend. and we've seen and we've come out of wars badly each time. but compared to what's going to happen on the first of march unless the administration or congress intervenes puts all these others into a different

category. this is a tragedy if it's allowed to progress. >>brian: it's going to be about $40 billion gutted from the budget out of $85 billion total. i want you to hear president obama's assessment of al qaeda today. >> today the organization that attacked us on 9/11 is a shadow of its former self. it's true, different al qaeda affiliates and extremist groups have emerged from the arabian peninsula to africa. the threat these groups pose is [inaudible] to meet this threat we don't need to send thousands of our sons and daughters abroad or occupy other nations. >>brian: what do we do then? >> first of all, al qaeda is no longer essentially a managed terrorist organization. it's what one could possibly call a franchise.

it's been fractured, that's true. but that doesn't mean that each of the elements, each of the franchise elements isn't dangerous, nor does it mean that al qaeda no longer has aims on harming america. al qaeda is the number-one threat to the united states. it has been for ten years. has al qaeda been wounded? yeah, but does it remain a threat to the nation? absolutely. >>brian: what bothers me about that statement is i don't care if it zawahiri or the next generation. it is an equal threat with the same mantra. they're back in iraq, spread out in africa. i think it is a tough statement to go to americans like this. >> you could almost make an argument that the fact that it's grown and broken apart and fractured -- al qaeda, i mean -- that it's probably more dangerous over the long term than it was prior to 9/11.

because at least under the old regime, you had a centrally controlled entity that the united states could strike at its center of gravity and break it and cut off its head and destroy its middle management. now we're looking at something that has spread all over north africa. it's far more difficult to assail with our special operating forces today than it was, say, ten years ago. >>brian: major general scales, good to see some resolve and maybe we won't see the sequester. thanks so much. it's cold outside, so we're going to heat things up with my new best friend. wait a second. i want to be her friend, but will she be mine? that's the bigger question. supermodel brooklyn decker is here live. first, with all this talk about drones, we decided to send anna to find some. >> good morning to you. currently all four branches

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>>gretchen: unmanned aerial vehicles better known as drones, they are probably the coolest and the most controversial weapons of modern-day warfare and they're making headlines now. >>brian: how do they work? an exhibit at the air and space museum in washington, d.c. takes a closer look. >>steve: that's where anna is joining us live. good morning to you, anna. >> good morning to you

guys. good morning to everybody at home. we are at the national air and space museum here in washington, d.c. i'm joined by one of the curators. good morning to you. we're going to be taking a look at a few of these. this first one is the predator. this is being used currently. tell me what it's capable of. >> this is aircraft designed to be flown remotely. this is taken off in theater by controllers in a ground station. controllers shift it usually around the world to ground stations here in the united states. various sites out west or even here in washington, d.c. at the c.i.a. >> roger, it's used for what? surveillance? it's also capable of attack. >> its primary original purpose was surveillance. it was armed in 2001. the aircraft we're seeing here is the very first one to be armed. it is the first one to fire a hell fire in combat. the first combat kill with a predator was this aircraft behind you. >> it was used in what year? >> 2001 in afghanistan. >> the next one we want to talk about is the shadow up

here. >> the shadow is another current u.a.v. in service, unmanned aerial vehicle. the shadow is designed for field forces. this is tactical reconnaissance and a very small aircraft designed to be used at a divisional company, even platoon level. >> i imagine because this one is smaller, it's easier to be camouflaged too? >> it's very hard to see. doesn't have to get very high before it is impossible to see from the ground. >> j.u.-cast looks like something from star wars. >> it is the only one of its aircraft that is truly unmanned. it can take off and fly as a robot. this one is designed as a bomber, designed to fly a mission on its own without human input. everything else we see here requires humans to control it. >> this last one, tell me about this one. this is one where humans

surrendered to a robot. >> that's right. >> roger connor, thank you for your time today. we'll check back with you in a bit. guys, back to you in the studio. that's the latest in d.c. >>steve: if you're going to take your kids to washington, d.c., that is absolutely the best museum. it's where you see all stages of aircraft throughout history. and you can actually touch a moon rock. really cool. >>gretchen: we'll check back in with her later on. coming up on "fox & friends," another royal photo scandal rocking william and kate this morning. >>steve: it involves a bikini. the president made a lot of promises last night? think he's going to keep them? dr. ben carson has a few ideas. he's next on "fox & friends" live from new york and baltimore and [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego.

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>> gretchen: good morning, everybody. today is wednesday, february 13, 2013. i'm gretchen carlson. thank you for sharing your time with us today. a burned body inside a cabin in california where an ex cop wanted in a readvantaged fueled killing spree was hiding out. new video of his violent encounter with police. we're live with the breaking developments. this was rivetting last night. >> steve: the president gives a state of the union speech promising plenty of spending. it's not going to cost us anything. >> let me repeat, nothing i'm proposing tonight should increase our deficit by a single dime. >> steve: that sounds great if that's possible. republican senator marco rubio gave an emotional response. he's going to join us live this

hour. >> brian: and wow. some say it's cold outside. so we're going to heat this place up and heat up your home. super model outstanding actress, brooklyn decker will be here live. great. "fox & friends" starts now. >> steve: fox news alert this hour. new video and brand-new information in the california cop killer stand-off. investigators found a charred body within the debris of that burned out cabin. it is believed that's where christopher dorner started the shootout with police yesterday afternoon.

man. alicia live in big bear, california, with the breaking details of the good morning to you. >> hi. good morning. we're still awaiting confirmation from forensics investigators that the remains inside that charred out cabin are that of christopher dorner. it was a dramatic and violent end to this week and a half long manhunt. we want you to take a listen here as local tv news crew was right there when this gun fight began. (gun shots fired) that gun battle was going on as dorner was attempt to go barricade himself in another cabin where he tried to take refuge. earlier while holed up in another residence works maids walked in on him. he tied them up and stole their car. that is point one on this map here. one of the maids breaks free, calls the cops. the cops locate dorner in the

stolen car. he crashes it, takes off and carjacks somebody else. that occurs at location number 2 on the map. take a listen. >> i saw some movement in the trees and it was christopher dorner and he came out onto the road out of the snow and he pointed his big rifle at me in my truck. i stopped, but my truck in park and put my hands up. he said, i don't want to hurt you. just get out and start walking up the road and take your dog with you. he was calm. i was calm. you know, i would say i was in fear for my life, but there was no panic. he told me what to do and i did it. >> that takes us to location number 3 on this map, the cabin where this manhunt comes to its dramatic end. dorner gets to this cabin in the process has another gun fight. this time with two sheriffs deputies. there is a stand-off, then after a time, smoke is seen coming from the building, then one

gunshot is heard and that is when authorities believe this week and a half long violent manhunt comes to an end. back to you guys. >> steve: all right. we thank you very much. remember courtney friel used to work here, now she's on the west coast. her husband was working for cbs in los angeles and kcal, he was pinned down there, a reporter, carter evans, everybody on the crew fine. >> brian: the interaction was fascinating. they said carter, i think you should get out of the way. he goes, to be honest, i don't know where to go. he didn't know where the bullets were coming from. >> gretchen: he was hiding behind the door his car as he was playing out on a speaker phone for his own coverage. now the other stories making headlines, the government being sued, accused of covering up details and being involved in the shooting to a shootout. the guns may be linked to a gun running operation.

>> a practice at that's parents say the guns were smuggled from the u.s. and the agent shouldn't have been sent on a dangerous mission. today a court will decide when millions mark the start of the lent season. in a few hours, pope benedict xvi will celebrate his final ash wednesday mass. it will be held at saint peter's basilica. it was moved from a smaller church to accommodate the large crowd. he announced monday he's resigning over health concerns and revealed he's been living with a pace maker and had surgery three months ago to replace the battery. kate middleton facing another photo scandal, the same magazine that ran topless photos of her last september released new ones of the pregnant duchess on vacation. a palace spokesperson said, quote, this is a clear breach of the couple's right to privacy. she's due in july. doesn't elook pregnant there. and those are your headlines. >> steve: all right. let's bring in dr. ben carson, a neurosurgeon at johns hopkins in

baltimore. good morning to you, doctor. >> good morning. >> steve: the reason you're making a couch call today is because you were at the national prayer breakfast last week and you had some common sense suggestions for this government on how to get things going. we want to play a couple of sound bites for you and get your reaction because a lot of people appreciate what you say. first of all, here is the president of the united states last night talking about doing all he can for the middle class. >> we want to grow -- we won't grow the middle class by shifting the costs of health care, or by forcing communities to lay off more teachers and more cops and more firefighters. most americans, democrats, republicans, and independents, understand that we can't just cut our way to prosperity. they know the -- >> steve: all right. he says we can't cut our way to prosperity. i know that's what a lot of republicans would like to do, more spending cuts. he would like to spend more. you're an independent, what did

you think of the address last night? >> well, i thought it was a very good delivery. he always has very good delivery. velocitiy ideals, sort of like the lofty ideals of cutting the deficit in half. it sounds good. but this whole thing about the middle class, you got to realize you're the president of everybody, upper class, middle class, and lower class. and what we need to be doing is coming up with policies that work for everyone when all the interlocking parts are functioning well together, then we have a strong union. i can understand coming from a background of a community organizer where it's sort of us against them and we got to get ours. but that's not what we are. and that's certainly not the position, i think, the leader of the nation should be in. >> gretchen: it was interesting to hear, dr. carson, the word investment, because as you are pointing out, that sounds wonderful, who would be against investment? but the bottom line comes down to who is going to pay for it? here are some of the proposals

where people will have to pay something. minimum wage from 7.25, going to go up if the president gets his way to $9. expanding preschool programs, $40 billion towards infrastructure and combating climate change. we didn't hear necessarily last night about who would pay for it. what do you think? >> well, of course, the taxpayers will pay for it. there is no question about that. but one of the reasons that i am so enthusiastically about god's plan, which is a flat tax or a tithe, is because everybody has skin in the game. when everyone has skin in the game, i think that's what the framers of the constitution intended. everybody to be treated the same. if everybody has skin in the game, you're not going to have one group saying yeah, let's raise the taxes because they know they're not having any. but if everybody is paying a percentage, it makes the government much more reluctant to do things that continually raise taxes because they got to face the ire of everybody. not just 1 or 2% or 5%.

that was the beauty of the way that we framed our constitution. we need to go back to egalitarianism. >> brian: and doctor, i also heard the buzz terms last night, fair share, the rich have to pay a little bit more to help everybody else out. so we're still hearing a lot of the same words and same tone, even though he already got a tax increase. >> the rich do pay more. the top 1% pays 37% of the taxes. the top 5% pays 59% of the tax. they don't make 59% of the income. so they already do pay more. but again, if they go back to a tithing system, you make $10 billion, you pay a billion dollars. you make 10, you pay 1. that's so simple. that is so fair. why do we think that we're smarter than god? >> steve: why do you think there is such a disconnect between your version and vision for taxes, which is fair, the billionaire pays 10%. everybody else pays 10% as well, whereas the president of the

united states, he says billionaires and millionaires need to pay their fair share, which means they essentially carry the water for the rest of the country. >> well, i think it's a philosophical difference. i believe that this is a country that is for, of, and by the people. there are others who believe it's for, of and by the government. there is a natural tendency, if you go back and look at the writings of the people who founded this nation, they talk about how there is a natural tendency for governments to get bigger and bigger and more powerful and to drain the power of the people. they created a constitution that hopefully would stop that from happening. but as more and more people begin to believe in revisionism and that the constitution is old, then we're going to have more trouble. we need to understand who we are. >> gretchen: you're speaking personally because you grew up with adversity, single parent situation. not in the best of neighborhoods. you turned out to be one of the most prominent neurosurgeons in the world. why do you think people are so angry at the message that you're speaking about?

shouldn't people look at you and think, wow. that's an admirable accomplishment? >> well, first of all, the vast majority of people are delighted. i ran into somebody yesterday -- >> steve: it's the left. >> yesterday left wing said i'm left of lenin, she said, but i loved your speech and ideals. some people don't think that we the people are supposed to be able to address, you know, the leadership. that's not true. we should be able to put our ideals out there, too. we should be able to discuss these things in a rational way without demonizing people and ascribing all kinds of intentions to them just because they don't agree with us. >> brian: i watched your whole speech afterward. i was work during the prayer breakfast. but afterwards, did you have any interaction with the president after the speech or any of his people or anybody upset about how direct you were? >> i had interaction with the president himself. he was very cordial. said he enjoyed my remarks and admired me.

a warm handshake. did i hear from some of his people? i heard from some people that the president and the white house was upset, but i haven't heard that from them. and i don't pay a lot of attention to stuff that i hear secondhanded. >> steve: all right. dr. ben carson, neurosurgeon -- >> gretchen: that might be the best thing you said. >> brian: he's retiring soon, so he could end up in politics. >> steve: your book is fantastic. dr. carson, thank you very much for joining us today from baltimore. you're in the white coat. looks like you got a busy day ahead. thank you. >> got a lot to do. thanks. >> gretchen: he took down bin laden. now his story is out, a heart breaking one. he's out of a job, he's struggling to pay his bill. is this really the reality for our war heros today? we're going to break that down. >> brian: then it's cold outside. as we mentioned before, we're going to try to heat things up. brooklyn decker is one woman warming machine. she'll be here shortly oh!

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>> brian: american here oh, the navy seal who shot osama bin laden. seal team 6. esquire magazine telling this story this week, while keeping his identity a jet secret. it wasn't just about him, it was about all these guys. >> gretchen: the story ends up not being a celebration. it's about the shooter's struggle now. he can't find a job or pay bills and worst of all, he can't tell anyone what he's done. this is reality for many of our vets. is this the way they should be treated? let's ask the deputy legislative director for veterans of foreign wars. good morning to you, ryan. >> good morning, gretchen. >> gretchen: so let's start out with what do you do to try and help veterans? >> well, i work for the veterans of foreign wars of the u.s., one of the largest veterans organizations in the country. what we do is we advocate on behalf of veterans. the vfw has cad restationed

around the country who are able to help veterans navigate the paperwork process that comes with filing for disability benefits with department of veterans affairs. >> brian: having said that, this story is written, most of america is stunned. what about this story is new to you? >> to be perfectly honest, not much of this was very surprising. this is an issue that my organization has been looking to tackle over the last few years. how we deliver information to transitioning service members. the shooter is not alone in this situation. i had a very close friend of mine, a friend from high school, as a matter of fact, who was air force rotc, went to one of the top engineering schools in the country, served in the air force for a few years. a couple years ago, he was unfortunately enough -- unfortunate enough to lose his civilian job. he asked me do i qualify for these benefits? i informed him he qualified for the five years of free health care, so something that would help him out in the interim, but there was a whole wealth of

benefits he may be eligible for as a result of his military service and service specifically in iraq and afghanistan. >> gretchen: sorry. continue. >> oh, no. after reading the esquire story, had really reinforced a the lo of the work we're doing. i'm glad this really brought it to the public's attention. americans care about the shooter. he's an american hero. >> gretchen: yeah, so what the vfw is doing is admirable. but why is the department of veterans affairs not doing it? >> a lot of the information is difficult to find when you transition out of the military. some of these hand holds between department of defense, department of labor, aren't really as smooth as we would like them to be. thankfully there are some opportunities right now to improve that. two years ago congressmandated that the department of defense would revamp its transition assistance program and participation would be mandatory. >> brian: the demands are different from war to war.

you know that better than most. in these wars that we're going to be fighting, special forces will be called on over and over again. what i think he's gone through and these special forces have gone through is like playing 50 football games a year. so they can't get through their 20 years. what are we going to do for the guys that physically are not going to be the same and cannot stay around to get their pensions? >> we have to do a better job of making sure they receive the care that they're entitled to while they're on active duty for one. and documenting the kinds of injuries that they endure on these kind of grueling missions. reading through the esquire story painted a picture of what the operational tempo is like for someone like the shooter. highly specialized, doing all of these missions that many of white house are even in uniform really wouldn't be able to pull off. >> gretchen: but not knowing that they had these benefits available to them. he says he was never told that he had this five-year health care plan and now apparently 40% of all vets, according to an article in stars and stripes, don't apply for that extended

health insurance because they don't know about it. that is unbelievable. >> exactly. one of the things that i keep saying about the transition assistance program is when you're on active duty, you don't necessarily know what you don't know. and so much of the information is just funneled upon you quickly that you can't really discern what's going to be important for you afterwards. and before, participation wasn't mandatory and many times, especially special operators because of how quickly they need to move through the processes won't be able to take advantage of it. >> brian: what gretchen brought up is true. you have to tell these people what they're capable of and we have to make the benefits better. they have to retire with some type of pension and take a deep breath rather than try to get a civilian job right away. there is not a lot of civilian jobs easily transferred if you have seal team 6 skills. thanks so much, ryan, for coming aboard today. >> thank you. >> gretchen: coming up, the president pitched more spending in last night's state of the union address. but all he needs is bipartisan support. so will republicans be on board? senator marco rubio, who

delivered the gop's rebullets, will be here next. >> brian: a mom hauled away in handcuffs for letting her son pump the gas. the cops overreact or does the punishment fit the crime? was it unleaded [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do.

>> brian: here is a look at the news by the numbers. one in four, that's how many people are living paycheck to paycheck in this nation. one in ten say they don't even earn enough to pay for basic essentials. 2.6, that's how many people are living below poverty. that's the opposite of what president obama promised his stimulus plan would do. he said he would get 2 million people out of poverty and 47 million americans. by the way, are now on food stamps since the president got into the white house. that's more than the population of spain. that's a look at today's news by the numbers and thanks for watching. >> gretchen: we're continuing to

follow the developing story of christopher dorner. burned remains found inside a california cabin are believed to be those of the former l.a.p.d cop who went on a vengeful killing spree before alluding authorities for six days. what can these actions tell us about the mind of a suspected cop killer? forensic psychiatrist, dr. michael wellner joins us with his thoughts. your notes are so amazing to me because you're looking at this totally different than i think we've heard before. starting with we need to pay close attention to how he alluded authorities so close to where they were. your thoughts. >> sure. i would start by just correcting and say that -- to say he's a cop killer doesn't quite capture it. sure, he killed children of police officers and. but what this should be noted and recognized as is a spectacle crime. when you think about dorner, you should think about briefic in norway and stack fly ago plane into an irs building and eric rudolph bombing abortion clinics

and the olympic park in 1996. >> steve: a guy with a grudge. >> more than a grudge. somebody who wants to call attention to themselves, who knows that if he mails something to anderson cooper, they'll play to his vanity and manifesto will be read by everybody who sees it on facebook. if this was all about his grudge, he knew from his training how to kill many more officers, but it was about doing something to create a spectacle and then say, look at me. i'll post this on facebook, and like briefic, like rudolph and stack, wrapping himself around an ideology that we can all relate to. who hasn't had a problem with the irs? we all have. would we fly a plane into it? would we suggest that people start killing? of course not. so we need to look at this the same way. everybody has had a problem with a cop. but if we denigrate the institution, just as we would denigrate the army as whole for

abu grahd, we're going to turn into the congo. you can't give this attention. it's completely unacceptable and it creates conditions under which people would hide him. >> brian: right. >> we don't know that -- >> brian: we got to figure it out. in 2007, why in 2007 and 2006 was he not capable of this? in 2008 and 2009 was he not doing this? why did it happen now? >> the progression of a spectacle killer is a grudge, alienation, and then being so invested in the grudge that it becomes you. the idea of you could sit down and talk to someone like this rationally, either as a friend or as a police officer, or even a psychiatrist and their feeling is, don't take this away from me, because this is what i organized my life around. it may be delusional and it may not be. but it becomes them. and here is the kicker. i haven't heard anything from the american bar association. the bigger message is, people lose their court cases every day. people feel bad about their

attorneys every day. for those who say they can understand what he did, he killed the children of his attorney. this is where we are as a society that if you don't like your attorney, you can go and kill their children. anyone who works in the system will tell you attorneys are threatened by their clients every day. if we don't denounce this, we set a precedent that people can target their attorneys and then we have chaos instead of rule of law. is that what people want to -- think about the criminal defense attorneys. they don't choose their clients. and they have sociopaths, they have people who aren't ex-military or who aspire to police officers. they have people who don't have to get paranoid to say, my grudge is worth more than your life or your children. we have to denounce collectively, that involves leaders and it involves the attorneys. >> gretchen: it's scary. this is why he has twitter followers who are encouraging him, you're shedding light on that. unfortunately, we got to wrap it up.

thank you very much. >> thank you. >> steve: it is now 29 minutes after the top of the hour. next up, the president wants to raise the minimum wage. but marco rubio says that's not a good idea. the republican senator who delivered the gop rebuttal here live. >> gretchen: the army sergeant credited with stopping the shooting at fort hood. why she says she feels betrayed by the president ns. the verizon share everything plan for small business. get a shareable pool of data... got enough joshua trees? ... on up to 25 devices. so you can spend less time... yea, the golden barrels... managing wireless costs and technology and more time driving your business potential. looks like we're going to need to order more agaves... ah! oh! ow! ... and more bandages. that's powerful. sharble data plus unlimited talk and text. now save $50 on a droid razr maxx hd by motorola.

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>> i love, at every state of the union address, the president always introduced by some guy who walks in and goes, mr. speaker! the president of the united states! you know, if we're really serious about reducing the size of government, start with that guy. okay? [ laughter ] what does he work, one day a year? joe biden's got nothing to do, let him introduce the president! we're already paying him! >> steve: make joe biden the the guy. senator marco rubio had the republican rebuttal and joins us live this morning from washington. good morning to you, senator. >> good morning. >> steve: let me start with all i've seen on-line and that is what's the deal with the water bottle? [ laughter ] my mouth got dry and i had to get some water. when you gave speech, you have a podium and the water is right there. when you don't, then you'll start looking around, where am i going to get the water from? i figured i would better off taking the water and taking the hit for it than being unable to pronounce my words. it had been a long day at work.

we had done an 18 minute record not guilty spanish. my mouth got dry. what can i say? i was happy with the overall, with what we were able to deliver. >> steve: i saw you tweeted a picture of the empty water bottle and i think i -- >> i brought some with me now, in case we need it. >> steve: all right. this will be about a five minute interview. would you like to have a swig before we get started? >> sure. let's do it now. absolutely. >> steve: very nice. zero dark thirsty. i saw that referred to. >> good. >> steve: hey, what did you think of the president's state of the union last night? he said essentially the state of our union is strong, but we're going to have to spend a lot of money. but don't worry, it's not going to cost us anything. >> look, the state of our union is strong in the fact that our people are strong. but the fact is we have problems to address. if we address them, our kids will be the most prosperous americans ever. if we don't address them, we'll be the generation that history says caused america's decline. that's how stark the choice

before us is. as i said on the outset yesterday in my response to the president, our free enterprise system is what makes our middle class possible. not government. and presidents in both parties have understood this, from john f. kennedy to ronald reagan. this president believes the free enterprise system is the cause of our problems. and that's why you saw yesterday that for every problem we have, his solution is a new law or a new spending program or something else. and that just doesn't work. that's an old idea that's been tried all over the world. it's failed every single time. and so what i hope the president will do is give up on this obsession he has with raising taxes and let's engage in a real conversation about how to bring the debt under control and more importantly, about growing our economy rapidly because that's the only way we're going to create the jobs we need and bring our debt down. >> steve: all right. senator, we're going to put up on the screen a list of the president's agenda. he'd like to -- i'm going to start with the second one, expand preschool programs. he'd like $40 billion toward infrastructure, shovel ready stuff. he'd like to combat climate

change. now the first item, he would like to increase the minimum wage from 7.25 to $9. during his first campaign, he wanted to raise it to 9.50. you don't think that's a good idea, do you? >> couple things on the universal pre-k, that's a state issue. states should be allowed to do that. we have that in florida. i'm a believer in early childhood education, but not that the federal government should mandate it. on climate change, the government can't change the weather. we can pass a bunch of laws that will destroy our economy, but it isn't going to change the weather. because, for example, there are other countries that are polluting in the atmosphere, much greater than we are, china, india, all these countries that are still growing. they're not going to stop doing what they're doing. america is a country. it's not a planet. so we can pass a bunch of laws or executive orders that will do nothing to change the climate or the weather. but will devastate our economy. devastate it. and that's why you're going to find a lot of bipartisan opposition to cap and trade or any of these other things the president is cooking up.

>> steve: and what about my first item where -- or the last item, first on the list, about minimum wage? you don't think it's a good idea to raise the minimum wage to 9 bucks? >> first of all, i want to see people making a lot more than $9 an hour in the united states. and the way do you that is through rapid economic growth where people are being paid a lot more than that. nine dollars is not enough. i think we all would want that. the question is a minimum wage the best way to do it? history has said absolutely not. in fact, the impact of minimum wage usually is that businesses hire less people. that's the impact of it. they'll just hire less people to do the same amount of work. it sounds good at the outset. if you tell people should the government raise the minimum wage? people will say sure, that makes sense, until you explain to them what it actually does historically. so just because something sounds good at the outset, doesn't mean it's a good idea. we have a lot of history to prove that the minimum wage, raising the minimum wage does not grow the middle class. what will help us get people paid a lot more than $9 an hour is a fast growing economy. >> steve: in addition to the state of the union address last

night, you had a busy day in congress. you voted against the violence against women act. if you would, explain why. >> i'm in favor of the violence against women act. i'm not in favor of this violence against women act. i would have voted to reauthorize the existing law. i would have wrote voted to reauthorize the existing law with some amendments. i would have voted for this bill if they would have taken some amendments. just as an example, under this bill, would hurt florida because it would require the state to take money away from domestic violence programs and give it to sexual assault programs. if we want to fund the sexual assault programs, put more money in will for that. but don't take money away from domestic violence programs that are working well in florida. i made my opposition and the reason for it very clear. they refused to accept it. i'm not going to vote for it. but if it comes back clean of that, i'll be more than happy to vote for it. i don't know anyone who is in favor of violence against women. >> steve: as we heard the president of the united states since the election back in november, he's really ratcheted up the rhetoric against guys and

gals in your party. it's become much more confrontational. would you say, as some punish difficulties did, post state of the union address last night, that his real goal is speaker pelosi, about two years from right now? >> i don't know what his political goals are. i imagine he probably would like to see the democrats control both branches of government. we know when they did, they got obamacare done, which has been a disaster. they got the stimulus done, which grew our debt. they got all these things done that are bad for our country. so i certainly think that's what he would like. he's not going to get that because at the end of the day, we're not going to lose the house. i think the american people aren't going to give him a chance to do that. the president has an agenda driven by his belief that our problems are the result of a government that's too small. and as you saw last night, to every problem that we face, his answer is either a tax increase, a new regulation, or a new government spending program. and that's been tried many, many times all over the world. it has never created the kind of vibrant middle class that we

americans believe in and want. >> steve: all right. senator marco rubio, great job last night. thank you very much for getting up early and joining us here on "fox & friends." thank you. >> thank you guys. >> steve: all right. of course, the senator is from the great state of florida and maria molina joins us with a look at florida. we've got crazy weather moving, as you can see from the mid atlantic through the gulf. >> that's right. that's actually my home state, too. if you live in south florida, the weather looks good down there for today. but northern florida, we're going to be looking at pretty big issues. we do have a risk for severe weather out there today in the form of tornadoes, damaging wind gusts and even large hail. heads up if you live across the city of jacksonville, you could be seeing that severe weather today. flooding, another big story across portions of the florida panhandle. southwestern portions of georgia, southeastern portions of alabama. even including portions of the state of mississippi and southeastern louisiana. again, we do have a lot of weather going on again across the southeast. all associated with a storm system that's headed towards the northeast and it's going to be

bringing in a little snow across portions of the mid atlantic and also into new york city as we head into tonight. accumulations very light. maybe one to three inches at the most. maybe five inches eastern long island. >> steve: still winter indeed. thank you. >> gretchen: coming up next, the former queen of talk takes another tumble. we'll tell but more trouble for oprah winfrey. >> steve: then what better way to heat things up than a visit from super model brooklyn decker. she's here live. morning, brooklyn. you're after the break. >> gretchen: the aflac trivia question of the day. born on this day in 1979, this actress' first major film role was in the academy award winning movie "american beauty." when is she? be the first to e-mail us with the correct answer and we'll send you something special. >> steve: hey, brooklyn just no fun to drive.

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>> steve: good morning. quick headlines. she's the hero police sergeant who helped stop the fort hood gunman and sat next to the first lady at the 2010 state of the union. now former sergeant kimberly munly says she and the other shooting victims have been betrayed by president obama. >> not to the least little bit have the victims been taken care of. in fact, they've been neglected very badly. >> steve: the victims are now suing the military sips the obama administration classified what happened there as workplace violence and not terrorism. that means diminished access to medical care and financial benefits as well. a mother in hot water for allegedly letting her toddler pump gas. theresa camara facing child endangerment charges in pennsylvania. she reportedly admits letting her son use the gas pump.

>> he just asked me to do that the other day. >> gretchen: she's known for showing off her perfect skin and now here to show us how she gets it looking oh, so good. >> brian: here to unlock the secrets, she's got to withstand our questioning, brooklyn decker. she's on the couch and welcome to our studio. >> thank you guys. good to see you all. >> brian: you're excited because valentine's day is upon us. a lot of people wonder how you celebrate valentine's day and the message you'll have for america. >> hopefully you're celebrate big a little kissing. am i right? hopefully. >> steve: by the end of the day. >> exactly. so jill let did -- gillette did this study to see whether or not women like their men clean shape or scruffy. 85% of women like their men clean shaven. we're doing a huge kiss and shave ehave not tomorrow in new york at the time warner center. >> steve: we've got a fox news grooming alert. let's go into the green room right now and who is that -- what's happening?

>> this is chris. he heard about the results from the experiment. he heard 85% of women love a clean shaven guy. >> steve: what is he looking for a date? >> he's shaving on television. how do you feel? >> he's married. >> gretchen: let me ask think as a woman. do you like to look at the not clean shaven facade of a man, but you don't like to kiss it? that's kind of how i feel. i like the look, but i don't like to kiss it. >> i totally agree with you because i like a little scruff. when it gets close to you, it it feels like sand paper. >> brian: they make special razors to allow to you have the growth and actually keep it tight. you have some tips for us and you've got overtime for these. these are the brooklyn decker shaving tips. am i correct? shave at the right time. what does that mean? >> partnerly you're supposed to shave with your gillette after a shower because your follicles in your face are open. >> steve: of course. >> so your hair is softer, it's easier and use a little shaving cream. if you use too much t works like

a -- what do you call it -- hydroplane on your skin so it won't work to get the hairs out. >> brian: does that gel -- >> gretchen: you know a lot about this. >> i'm preparing you for these kisses, guys. >> brian: do a lot of people come up to you blindly and say, i need romantic tips? do they come up to you, injure brooklyn decker. >> apparently i am a kiss and tell expert. no one has ever sought out my romantic advice. >> steve: until today. >> until today. and really it's kissing advice. >> steve: just out of curiousity, we know your famous husband may or may not be watching right now. what makes for a romantic valentine's day there? >> i will be here in new york and he's on the west coast. so sadly we will be having no valentine's day plans. but i think a good valentine's day is hanging out with your guy. we have this really fun event at the time warner center where we're trying to break the guiness world book of records

for the most kisses between a couple in a minute. >> gretchen: that would be like hitting each other. >> like a wood pecker. >> brian: are these couples already set up as couples? >> no, they're real couples. >> gretchen: that makes it easier. >> brian: so when is the next movie coming out? >> hopefully -- i can't talk about it yet, but hopefully within the next month or so. >> brian: you lost adam sandler to jennifer aniston. have you ever lost a guy to another woman? >> i mean, when i was young. when i was like 12. >> brian: that's about it. >> sixth grade and i was disgruntsled about it. but luckily i've had good ones. >> steve: all right. thank you very much. nice to see you again. >> good to see you. >> steve: happy valentine's day. >> gretchen: you like to address your dog up and spend money doing it. is that normal or nuts? dr. keith ablow's diagnosis is in. >> steve: first let's take you back to 1978, "staying alive,"

bee gees, number one song in america. brooklyn's got it on her ipod. >> brian: how old were you in 1978? >> i wasn't alive. [ laughter ] look what mommy is having. mommy's having a french fry. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetable juice, with three of your daily vegetable servings in every little bottle. that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. spoiler alert: it's low. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. e-trade. less for us. more for you. [ whispering ] that's crazy, the cookie's the best part. crème. cooe. crème. stop yelling.

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>> brian: aflac answer, what mena savari. the winner is katherine savage from san antonio, texas. i forgot the question. i was out last segment. am i normal or nuts? it's a question everyone asks themselves. we ask once a week to dr. keith ablow. welcome back. >> thank you. thanks for having me back. >> brian: first, we got a question for you. tell fuss it's normal or nuts.

question number one, i'd like to think i'm a generous tipper. i understand how hard waitresses work and that they don't get paid a lot hourly. my friend, though, actual israeli a waiter who won't tip that much when we go out. when i ask why, he says because the person did not do a good enough job. i always feel like i'm being the better person. am i normal or nuts? >> listen, you know, i guess it's pretty normal to enjoy giving a little bit more as a tip. it makes you feel generous. probably that's half the reason why people are big tippers. it makes them feel good about themselves. but listen, here is my caveat to that, a disclaimer. don't try this with your business partner because your friend may be saying, listen, let's get really down to the truth. it's not that good, the service. i'm not tipping 22%. i'm doing 12%. hence, don't try try toover value in your life because it can cost you a lot more. don't make this viral. >> brian: number two, i'd like to dress up my dog if fancy

outfits. i think it's cute to put my beagle in little sweaters. i put a lot of time, effort and money in coordinating these outfits. my boyfriend thinks i'm going overboard by dressing up my dog rather than saving money. am i normal or nuts? >> despite the fact that i have two beagles whom i love, i think it's a little nuts. i don't dress them up. listen, it wouldn't be nuts if your boyfriend weren't implying, which i take to be fat, that you're sacrificing your financial well-being to dress the puppies. you can cost. i just spent $25 on bones. but you can't imperil other aspects of your life in order to dress your beagle, though she may be very cute indeed. >> brian: if you see dr. keith ablow walking his beagle, it won't be in an outfit. number three, my friend gets really, really annoyed when w take her picture. most of the girls i know love

having their picture taken. but any time any of our other friends try to get her on camera, she hides her face and won't talk to the person who tried to take her picture. is she normal or nuts? >> well, you know, she's unusual, but i'm going to say normal. not everybody wants his or her photo taken. this young woman may be sensitive about her appearance, or frankly, she just may not be buying into this notion that everything we do today has to be photographed, posted here, twitted there, which is just a bunch of nare sissistic nonsense. the other people are a little crazy. >> brian: dr. ablow. thank you for joining us today. >> send pictures of brooklyn decker, please. >> brian: that is totally normal. >> that's normal. >> brian: you are very normal. dr. keith, thanks. coming up, when it comes to parenting, do the french do it better? one mom says yes. she's going to prove it. then, the former queen of talk takes another tumble. the big trouble for oprah at the top of the hour

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>> gretchen: good morning, everybody. today is wednesday, february 13, 2013. i'm gretchen carlson. i hope you have a great day. thanks for sharing part of it with us today. fox news alert for you, a burned body found inside a california cabin where ex-cop chris dorner was hiding. brand-new details moments away. >> brian: then the president told america don't expect the government to fix everything. one problem, his solution, more government to fix everything. we will analyze his state of the union, won't we? >> steve: and who knew this would be one of the most talked about moments from last night's speech. marco rubio explains his water break right here on "fox & friends." "fox & friends" hour 3 for a thirsty wednesday starts right now.

>> gretchen: let's get to the fox news alert this morning. brand-new video and brand-new information in the california cop killer stand-off. investigators did find a charred body in this burned out cabin in california. it's believed that's where christopher dorner started this shootout with police. (shots fired) >> gretchen: alicia live in big bear, california with all the brecking details that have been happening overnight. are they sure that he is actually in there, that he is dead or have they been able to not get inside the home? >> gretchen, actually today brings a formality of identifying the body that is inside of that charred burned out cabin. also with daylight, authorities

will begin to puzzle together all the craziness that happened yesterday and part of that craziness was a gun fight. it was a local tv station that was right there. (shots fired). >> that is the sound of dorner and several members of law enforcement in a gun fight as dorner is holing himself up in one of the many mountain cabins. just prior he had been caught in a stolen vehicle where again, he was shooting at authorities. >> at that point, where they did engage the suspect a second time e shot at them. the warden had his patrol rifle, he went up on to a location where he could engage the suspect and he fired multiple rounds at the suspect as he was driving away. >> all this leading up to the stand-off at the cabin where

after some time, smoke could be seen coming from the building. then the sound of a single gunshot and then the flames. it is after this the manhunt appeared to finally be over. california governor jerry brown is expected to attend the funeral of slain riverside police officer mike crane today. police say dorner gunned him down last thursday in an ambush while he was on patrol and parked at a stoplight. all this while the sheriff's department here in san bernardino county is mourning the loss of one of their deputies from the gun fight yesterday, and another is in the hospital recovering from surgery and will likely need multiple surgeries. gretchen. >> gretchen: alicia live in california with the breaking details. thank you very much. the other stories making headlines for your day, the government being sued accused of covering up details and being negligent in the shooting of two immigration and customs enforcement agents. the guns used may be linked to the botched fast and furious program. zapata was shot dead in 2011 in

mexico by members of a drug cartel. his partner was seriously wounded. the parents say the guns were smuggled from the u.s. and the agents shouldn't have been sent on such a dangerous mission. carnival cruise line says it's sorry thousands of people are stranded on one of their ships, but passengers are exaggerating how bad the situation is? the company is disputing claims there is no running water or working toilets. carnival says most of the plumbing is work and there are no immediate health concerns. today is the fourth day the ship has been floating in the gulf of mexico after a fire broke out on sunday. a woman who was on the same ship just two weeks ago said even then there were problems. >> we're just very upset when i saw this because we had the same problem on the same ship and they should have fixed it before they sent these people out there. >> gretchen: tug boats are pulling the ship to mobile, alabama. it's expected to arrive tomorrow. today is ash wednesday, when millions of christians mark the start of lent.

in a few hours, pope benedict xvi will celebrate his final ash wednesday mass. it will be held at saint peter's basilica. it was moved from a installer church to accommodate the large crowd. he announced monday he's resigning over health concerns. it was revealed the pope has been living with a pacemaker. father jonathan morris explains how that contributed to his decision. >> a couple of months ago he had the pacemaker battery replaced. i think it's pretty normal. i think the big news here is that while many people were saying there must be something else behind the news, it can't be that he's actually resigning on his own free will for the sake of the church, turns out it looks like it's the case. >> gretchen: pope benedict is stepping down at the end of the month. the church hopes to have a new leader in place by easter. republican senator marco rubio with a water bottle moment. during the republican response to the president's state of the union going viral, he poked a

little fun at himself earlier on "fox & friends." >> my mouth got dry, what can i say? but i was happy with the overall, with what we were able to deliver in the speech. >> steve: i saw that you tweeted a picture of the empty water bottle and i think -- >> i brought some with me now, by the way, in case we need it. >> steve: all right. this will be about a five-minute interview. wartlike have a swig before we get started? >> sure. let's do it. absolutely. >> steve: very nice. >> gretchen: rubio had already recorded an 18-minute response in spanish before giving the speech in english and that's why he was thirsty. >> steve: maybe he was just trying get one last drink before lent started this morning. >> brian: six minutes after the hour. the president spoke for an hour last night, state of the union. the context of the speech, i'm sure he's extremely happy with. you can not if you're taking a speech class 101, you say, he can deliver, to me, it sounds like he wrote all of it. i think there are some things you can say that republicans will be on board for.

tax reform, republicans are saying that for a long time. look for them to be there. immigration reform. it sounds like they'll be there. voting reforms. so 102-year-old doesn't have to wait in a line for nine hours. everybody is on the same page. he's got a republican and a democratic lawyer working together to come up with some joint reforms. after that, to me, it seems all bets are off. >> gretchen: i'm not so sure they're going to find common ground on all of those issues. >> brian: i think we have a starting point. >> gretchen: thee receipticcally, but there is a lot to argue about with voter reform. they've been argue being it for the last ten years. as far as immigration, i would love to think that we would get a deal done, but i'm not so sure that's going to happen. >> steve: i think that probably -- that and tax reform are probably the two closest things they can get bipartisan agreement on. the one thing they won't get agreement on from the republican side of the aisle is the president's plan, and he made it very clear as he released his liberal laundry list of things he'd like to accomplish in the next year, is that the state of our union is strong. but we are going to have to spend a lot of your money.

>> i propose we use some of our oil and gas revenues to fund an energy security trust. i propose a fixe it first. put people to work on our most urgent repairs, like the nearly 70,000 structurally deficient bridges across the country. no one who works full time should have to live in poverty and raise the federal minimum wage to $9 an hour. tonight i propose working with states to make high quality preschool available to every single child in america. [ applause ] nothing i'm proposing tonight should increase our deficit by a single dime. >> brian: but the problem is the president used to say he was going to cut the deficit. now -- >> steve: in half. >> brian: i saw tim scott went out and made this statement. sounded like a christmas list to me of the the question is, how do you pay for preschool in every state and how do you pay for $9 an hour?

jeff sessions says, the president's policies are creating dependency and poverty. >> gretchen: it's always about the details. the devil is in the details. it sounds great to talk about investment, but when you don't talk about who is actually going to foot the bill, then that becomes the big issue. that was the whole issue of the election, quite frankly. here is some things he wants to increase. minimum wage from 7.25 to 9 bucks an hour. expanding preschool, $40 billion toward infrastructure, combating climate change, but it comes down to the basic question, who will pay for it? >> steve: here is the thing, people who have jobs may actually pay for a higher minimum wage because if you increase it to $9 an hour, an employer only has a certain pool of money and are they going to hire more or cut back in senator rubio was on the program about 40 minutes ago. he says that raising the minimum wage is not the answer. >> i want to see people making a lot more than $9 an hour in the united states and the way do you that is through rapid economic

growth where people are being paid more than that. nine dollars is not enough. i think we all want that. the question is a minimum wage the best way to do it? history has said the answer is absolutely not. and in fact, the impact of minimum wage usually is that businesses hire less people. that's the impact of it. less people to do the same amount of work. it sounds good at the outset. if you ask people should the government raise the minimum wage, people will say sure, that makes sense, until you explain what it actually does historically. >> steve: there is a little fact checking going on in the "washington post" this morning. the president last night said that we have created 6 million jobs. people go, well, that's really great. but it looks like, according to the "washington post," he was doing some cherry picking because since the start of the barak obama administration, they have created not 6 million, but 1.2 million jobs and we are at 3.2 million jobs fewer than at the start of the recession. of course, those aren't quite as cheery numbers, and so the president did some cherry picking. >> gretchen: somebody who took

the president to task right in front of him last week was during the national prayer breakfast. dr. carson, a renowned neurosurgeon, talked be about tax reform during the prayer breakfast. he was talking about obamacare and the effects. and he got a lot of blowback from some conservatives, quite frankly, and also from the left. and it's interesting to note why that may have happened when you learn a little bit more about his own personal history. here is dr. carson. >> you are speaking personally because you grew up with adversity, single parent situation, not in the best of neighborhoods. you turned out to be one of the most prominent neurosurgeons in the world. why do you think people are so angry at the message that you're speaking about? shoot people look at you and think wow, that's an admirable accomplishment? >> well, first of all, the vast majority of people are delighted. i ran into somebody yesterday, very left wing, said that i'm left of lenin, but i loved your

speech and ideals. you know, some people don't think that we the people are supposed to be able to address, you know, the leadership. that's not true. we should be able to put our ideals out there, too. we should be able to discuss these things in a rational way, without demonizing people and ascribing all kinds of intentions to them just because they don't agree with us. >> steve: the question is going forward, how many items will the congress be able to agree with the president on and get stuff done? it's interesting, one of the applause lines that the president used a couple of times was let's get it done. he said let's get it done about five times. i was wondering, who wrote that speech? larry the cable guy? >> brian: maybe. he does have executive orders cued up in case we don't get it done and he says he started by saying look out for sequester. i don't want it and if it doesn't happen, don't blame me. >> steve: which is weird because the white house invented it. he's trying to say, let the congress voted for it. it was an invention of jack lew when he was at the white house.

he's the guy who invented the sequester. >> brian: by the way, his nomination could be contentious, too. >> gretchen: so much to talk about, including this, the accused cop killer now believed to be dead, but how did he manage to actually drum up support? who would support a cop killer? peter johnson, jr. has some thoughts on it next. >> steve: then she got a c plus in her grad course, so she sued her college because the bad grade wrecked her dream. does she have a case? we'll be right back. >> nancy pelosi said on fox news sunday, a false argument to say that we have a spending problem. you know something, i think she may be right. i think what they actually have is you don't have a clue problem. i think that might be closer.

>> brian: we showed you new video at the top of the hour. police say that is ex cop christopher dorner, ending the longest manhunt before his cabin caught fire. dorner believed to be dead. and the story gets only more sickening. despite being accused of killing four people, dorner has enormous number of supporters. joining us right now, fox news legal analyst, peter johnson, jr. have you ever seen something like this before? >> no, it's not -- is he a miserable murderer or misunderstood martyr? why was he inspiring sympathy, empathy? was he a bad guy or good guy? avenues terrible guy a horrible guy. but it appears a lot of us lost moral clarity on this issue. >> brian: like those people holding up those signs. save chris? >> what they were saying is, well, yes, i believe he was the victim of racism and then weekly saying at the same time, of

course, that's no excuse for violence. but either he was a terrorist or he was a madman. he published this strange manifesto which some people believe had some prophetic meaning. they looked at it like it was scripture and said, what is he saying here about the media? what is he saying about the l.a.p.d what is he saying about race relations in our society, as if somehow it was an excuse for his conduct. and so i think we've seen this over time in american history if there is a robin hood type criminal, people say, okay, i can romanticize that, i can empathize, but how do you empathize with a person that's killed four people and wounded other people, when there are 50 police officers families being protected around the clock, when southern california was gripped in fear, how do you rationalize that? how do you say, well, how does the lapd say, we're going to

reopen this case? >> brian: i hope that was a ploy. >> if it's a ploy, they've lost credibilitien any further statements they make in the future because what they're saying is if you have the barrel of a gun, that you can change policy in america. if you have a long weapon, if you have a smoke bomb -- >> brian: kill enough cops. >> you can say, i'm going to change everything. look at me. i'm a victim of racism and i have the opportunity. good people reject this. but there is a few people in our society who don't. that's why good people should speak out against bad conduct. this was bad conduct of the worst sort. people died, are grieving. there is a funeral today. this is a horror show. we have to reexamine our country, what moral clarity is and our media has to examine how we look at stories like this. there should be contempt. there should be -- hatred is too strong a word, but maybe the families are feeling that today. we have to look at this in a

realistic way. >> brian: what about these people, do they have to look in the mirror at some point? how can they possibly do that? >> this is not about his grievance. >> brian: peter johnson, jr., thanks so much. one of the weird things happening in this case. disgusting. next up, when it comes to parenting, do the french do it better? one mom says yep. she's going to prove it. hopefully in english. then jackie collins famous for her romance novels. so who better to dish out advice on valentine's day? e-mail us right now with your relationship questions. she will answer them for free. i have lost 101 lbs on weight watchers onle. i just got start and i'm like "hey, that first 20 came off, well it wasn't too hard at all." i love breads. you can still eat bread. i love my sweets.

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>> brian: basketball legend larry bird has a son and he's staying silent after his son's arrest. his 21-year-old conner bird allegedly tried to run his ex-girlfriend over with his car. police say the trouble began when conner bird and the woman got into a fight at indiana university. by the way, his father didn't like the university. another tumble for oprah winfrey. her film company, harpo, films hasn't released a movie since the great debate increase 2007, which by the way i never saw. oprah's company will reportedly now focus only on tv projects. good-bye, film. gretch? >> gretchen: thank you, brian. if you're raising a small child, you probably think constant interruptions are the inevitable part of parenting. my next guest says they don't have to be. you just need to parent like the french do. joining me is pamela druckerman and author of the new book.

it's sort of a follow-up, isn't it, to your book, you were here last year for. >> yeah. my first book was a memoir. this is i've tried to distill the smartest points that i learned from french parents into a shorter book. >> gretchen: let's start with pregnancy. your tip is eat for one. not two. >> yes. the french believe that you're becoming a mother, but you're still very much a woman. so you want to keep your allure intact. it's not a free pass to eat whatever you want. >> gretchen: good advice. infants, baby formula, it isn't poison. >> the french have the lowest rate of breast-feeding in western europe. they're not fanatical about it at all. but they're practical about do what you need to do and don't feel guilty about it. they go back -- french mothers often go back to work and they're okay with formula. >> gretchen: toddlers, only one snack per day. i sense a tantrum coming. [ laughter ] >> it's the opposite, actually. you kind of get kids used to not expecting to snack constantly and the fringe benefit of that, a big benefit, is that at meal times, they really are hungry.

and then it creates a cycle and you serve vegetables first as the french do. so the kid is hungry, he's at the table and it's a plate of broccoli. >> gretchen: a constant bale. preschoolers, every child needs a curse word? [ laughter ] >> yeah. i don't know if i'm allowed to say the french preschooler's curse word on the air. but it's the idea that you give kids some freedom of the the french idea of being strict about a few key things, but then saying yes as often as you can. >> gretchen: what about school age children don't attend birthday parties? >> american mothers, especially, complain that they spend all weekend just kind of hanging out, eating lots of cake at these kids' birthdays and they don't need to be there. give yourself free time. >> gretchen: on discipline, say wait a lot. >> french idea is that patience is a skill. so you tell kids to wait. the french have a no interrupting rule where if a child comes up to you and wants to say something, you say, honey, i'll be with new a minute. gradually over time, the child learns patience and learns to play by himself more and the whole pace of life calms down. but conversely, if a child is

playing happily, the grownup doesn't interrupt him either. it's this mutual respect. >> gretchen: very interesting. a lot of great tips, 100 of them. pamela, check out the new book. 100 keys to french parenting. thanks much. >> thank you. >> gretchen: she's the army sergeant credited with stopping the shooting rampage at fort hood. why she says she feels betrayed now by the president. then no one knows romance better than author jackie collins. send her your questions right now. www.foxandfriends.com, maybe we'll got to a couple of them [ male announcer ] how do you make america's favorite recipes?

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♪ . >> brian: shot of the morning. joe biden wearing rose colored glasses. twitter buzz over joe biden last night at the state of the union address. he was wearing glasses after scratching his eye with contact lenses. i used to do that. he took them on and off more than a few times during the speech. some people have started a petition to get him a pair of stylish glasses. like any good viral joke, the night ended with biden's glasses getting its own twitter account. >> gretchen: oh, come on of the some people thought he was crying during the speech, he was

so moved by what he was hearing. he wasn't. he was wiping away tears because he had a cut on his eye. >> brian: i remember the days of contact lenses, i was fearless. >> gretchen: i hated them so much, it moved me on to lasik. >> brian: you did it. i did it on camera in the early '70s. >> steve: listen, if anybody is going to be crying between those two guys hyped the president, it probably would have been mr. boehner rather than mr. biden. let's talk a little bit about -- there they are, presiding over a joint session of congress. if you missed it last night, the president of the united states laid out his plan for the next year. he said the state of our union is good, but we're going to -- >> brian: stronger, he said. >> steve: yeah, stronger. it's a good union and go union jobs. but we'll have to spend a lot of dough and even though the white house invented the sequester thing, this gigantic budget cut, spending cuts of half a trillion dollars to kick in starting march 1, now he says that would be a big problem for our

military. in fact, ryan was talking to general scales earlier about that and general scales said this of sequesterration. >> i was hoping for some statement, some commitment that sequestration wouldn't happen. look, i've been through this three times in my lifetime. i saw the army break after vietnam. i lived through the hollow army of the late '70s. i personally, we all personally paid the price for the peace dividend and we've seen and we've come out of wars badly each time. but compared to what's going to happen on the 1st of march unless the administration or congress intervenes, puts all these others into a different category. this is a tragedy if it's allowed to progress. >> brian: so maybe if the president honestly does not want sequester to happen, maybe he's gog have a series of last minute neatings to make it not happen because mitch mcconnell says it's going to happen. congressman cole says it will

happen. everyone says it's inevitable and the people that pay the price are the military. nobody thought it was going to happen of the they're not even prepared to cut yet. >> gretchen: it's interesting because wasn't it during one of the debathes that the president erroneously said he didn't want southwest tore happen, that it wasn't his idea that it wouldn't? now that's way back in october. november, december, january, february. here we are all these months later and still nothing has been done. march 1 is just around the corner. >> brian: you don't believe it? bob worded it ward said it was the president's idea. >> steve: right. jack lew came up with it. it's interesting, the white house is -- they put jay carney out on fox news last night with bret baier before the state of the union address and rather than owning up to the fact that it was an invention of the white house, what he said was, look, congress passed it. congress voted for it. there were a bunch of republicans who voted for it, so that's where we are. >> gretchen: so in the meantime, the president last night talked a lot about investing, which is really spending, and said it would not increase the deficit a

dime. but there was a focus group that frank luntz was conducting afterwards. did the people buy that? let's watch. >> do you believe him that his policies will not add to the deficit? do you believe it? >> no. >> would does not believe it, raise your hands. why don't you believe it? >> because look at the deficit and how it keeps growing. i mean, it's spiraling out of control. it's continuing to grow. i don't see any evidence that it's going the other way. >> he made a commitment it wouldn't go up. >> everything costs something. so he's -- >> he said that the $3,000 for people to refinance their homes would get a tax break for that. but he didn't tell us where the money was going to come from, so that adds to the deficit. >> i truly believe -- he really is believing what he wants to do and he wants to do the best thing for the country. and he's going to follow that through. >> we have to stop this language of you and i know when i cut my budget, that means i go from $100 to $95. in the government, a cut in

budget means we only grow 8% instead of 12%. and that kind of language and talking like that has got to stop. >> you guys agree with that? >> absolutely. >> i moon, yeah. the only cuts that have have been made are cuts in growth. there has been no cut in the deficit. >> steve: the president did promise by the end of his first year he was going to cut the deficit in half. of course, we went the wrong direction. >> brian: 24 minutes before the top of the hour. >> steve: more headlines, she's the hero police sergeant who helped stop the fort hood gunman and sat next to the first lady at the state of the union a couple years ago. now former sergeant kimberly monly doesn't have a job. she says she and the other fort hood shooting victims have been betrayed by president obama. >> not to the least little bit have the victims been taken care of. in fact, they've been neglected very badly. >> steve: victims are now suing the military since the obama

administration classified the attack as workplace violence and not terrorism, which many feel it was. that means diminished access to medical care and financial benefit. >> brian: guess what? hasan is still getting paid while on trial. a former grad student is suing lehigh university in pennsylvania for over a million dollars because she received a bad grade. the 27-year-old claims the c plus she received cost her the career she wanted because she needed a b to move forward in the program. her attorney, yes, her attorney says she's a victim of a breach of contract and sexual discrimination. the school disputes the allegations, saying she got a c plus. gretch. >> gretchen: there is a new top dog in america this morning. >> best in show winner with 137 westminster kennel club dog show, the affenpinscher. >> gretchen: that's right. last night banana joe, five-year-old affenpinscher from the netherlands became the first in his breed to take the top

title at the westminster dog show. banana joe joined us on the set earlier. we found out what makes him so special. >> underneath that coat he was as solid as any of the big dogs. never took a wrong step. he's always been a great little showman. every time we've seen him. he's had a wonderful career. i think this was his 86th best in show. he's a great little show dog. >> gretchen: banana joe is going out on top. he's retiring after last night's win and will return to holland where he was born. >> brian: what does a dog do when he retires? lick himself more? >> steve: because he can. looking for love this valentine's day, who better to ask than best selling romance novel writer jackie collins. her new book is "power trip." she joins us live. good morning to you. >> good morning, how are you? >> steve: we were talking about dogs. and you have them. >> i do. i have labradors. >> brian: how many? >> two. >> brian: they get along? n they do. >> brian: male, female? >> both males. >> gretchen: what are their names? >> what are their names?

i don't know. because i call them dogs. [ laughter ] >> gretchen: okay. that's fine. let's talk about this new book you're writing. the power trip, so it involves a russian billionaire. >> yes. >> gretchen: it also involves a model girlfriend. >> right. >> gretchen: what else? >> a billionaire takes a group of high powered people on this trip on this fabulous yacht that's just been built. they take with them five very high powered couples. a cheating politician, surprise, surprise. >> steve: what could that be based on? >> this is interesting, people are playing the guessing game. 50 something movie star with his 20 something girlfriend. >> steve: george clooney. >> oh, no. and then there is all these other characters and there is an upstairs, downstairs element because you see all the crew and you see all these rich affluent people and then they get pirated. >> steve: in cabo san lucas? >> yeah. i was on a trip to the south of france and i was on this billionaire's yacht and

halfway -- >> brian: why wouldn't you be. >> i had to do research. you write a book, you have to research it. so we're halfway to star din i can't from the south of france and i was very restless in the middle of the night and i got up and said, where are we? he said we're five hours, you know, sea with no land anywhere. i said, really? what would happen if we got pirated? he said yeah, it could happen. i think it is happening. what i wanted to show was these characters who are really interesting and, you know, very empowered. you've had all these people on your shows, you know that they have got -- surrounded by gophers and people. what happens to them -- >> brian: they lose all their power. >> it's a very different book. >> gretchen: would you also be willing to give relationship advice to some of our viewers? they e-mailed us and here is one. is it inappropriate to give chocolates to a co-worker who i am romantically interested in? >> brian: jackie collin, answer the question. >> i don't think so. you can always give chocolates.

>> steve: why wait? >> why wait? my message to women is, you don't have to depend on valentine's day to get romantic. >> brian: exactly. every day is sadie hawkins day. this is not me. i've been dating my girlfriend for two months. how much money should i spend? >> it depends how much he loves her. does he love her? if he's really into her -- >> steve: it's one month's worth of love. >> oh, oh, oh i think he should be -- he should think is this relationship going to last? if it's going to last, then he should spend a lot of money. if it's not -- >> brian: keep the receipts. [ laughter ] >> steve: of course, i'm sure you would say the perfect valentine's day gift would be the power trip, brand-new book. >> yes, yes. because it's very romantic and there is a lot of steamy sex. >> steve: okay. >> gretchen: oh, she got that in. all right. >> brian: jackie collins with steamy sex? that doesn't make any sense. >> i know. >> steve: give our best to your two dogs. >> i will.

names i don't know. >> gretchen: labrador one and two. coming up, because he was one of america's most wanted, chris dorner was honored for his service to our country. so what went wrong? a man standing beside him in this picture, former l.a.p.d commissioner, william bratten. >> brian: he was on his hit list. >> steve: with all this talk about drone, we decided to send anna cow man to find some and guess what? she found some hanging out down in washington. she's live coming up

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play with cops. >> brian: so how did this once decorated veteran turn into a cold blooded killer? joining us is the man who used to be his boss, former commissioner of the lapd. it must have been harrowing for you. you were on his hit list. >> over the last couple of days, the tension and concern levels rose. ironically, yesterday i met with the nypd threat assessment to begin an assessment since he had not been heard from in so long, there would have been the potential time elapse for him to be able to travel to get to new york if --ing? to go after you. >> steve: we just saw a picture with you standing with him. i know that famously now, he returned a challenge going that you gave hip, shot up with four holes in it. >> that's correct. >> steve: do you remember that day? >> i don't. this is something that i would routinely do and offices were being act to do military services. this is a very common occurrence.

i have no recollection at all. he's a very distinctive looking individual, but i have no recollection of him or at the time, the incident for which he was discharged. i've since reviewed those records, but still don't have a recollection. >> gretchen: hindsight is 20/20, with your experience being in charge once of the lapd, how would you change the way in which this event was handled, if at all? >> actually, as always, occurs in these i want, there will be extensive review of where things could have been done differently. in terms of my reaction and monitoring of it, the l.a.p.d did a superb job of dealing with this and then the surrounding communities because none of these murders or shootings occurred in the city of los angeles. so for most of the investigation, it was being handled by outside departments, riverside, san diego, san bernardino. so the lapd was effectively in support mode in much of this incident. >> brian: you just told us when you sat down that the thing about this that stands out is they crossed the line. they go up to the families of

law enforcement and we saw the family of a lawyer. that's disturbing. >> in modern times, it is in this country, taboo to target families of law enforcement. >> brian: even bob doesn't target families. >> that's correct. it is something that seems to happen more in other countries. so there was a line that was crossed. the first two victims, total innocents. the daughter of the earn to who represented him. then the chilling story that he had allegedly, after he murdered the daughter and the boyfriend, that they called the father and said that he had done it and that i'm coming for you. this individual who some are celebrating as a cause celeb, we don't need to glorify him. we need to vilify him. >> brian: charlie sheen cutting that video, did that disgust you? >> i did not see it. i readbout it. but that would be in some respects almost on a grand standing, if you will. >> steve: all right. we thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you.

pleasure to be with you as always. >> gretchen: coming up next, with all this talk about drones, we decided to send anna kooiman to find some of them. anna? >> good morning to you. drone are being used by all four branches of the military, but a lot of people don't know what the heck they really look like and what they're capable of. we'll give you an up close look at the predator and a few others. here is bill hemmer with a look at what's coming up on "america's newsroom." >> do police have their man in california? we'll analyze that. what did last night change for you? anything? that cruise ship is still not in port. you will hear from a woman on board so many days later. join martha and me and banana joe coming up in ten minutes on "america's newsroom" family gets the flu. fact: advil not only relieves body aches and pains that can come with the flu, it also reduces fever fast. relief doesn't get any better than this.

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>> gretchen: welcome back. we've been hearing a lot about the c.i.a.'s top secret drones in the news. they're some of the coolest and most controversial weapons of mass destruction of our time. we suspect our own anna kooiman to check them out. >> brian: she's been giving us fascinating looks all show long. she's now in the exhibit at the national air and space museum in washington, d.c what's on tap for us? >> we're taking a look at several of them 'cause a lot of people don't know exactly what they do and what they're capable of and really what they look like. i'm joined by one of the curators at the air and space museum, roger conner, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> you say that these actually started being used around world war ii after being experimented with in world war one, but they're really grabbing headlines recently. let's talk about this one, the predator. >> predators started its operational use in kosovo in 1999 and on the eve of operations in afghanistan, it was armed. the aircraft that we're look at behind this is the first predator ever to be armed and the first one to fire a weapon

in combat. >> so it's not just surveillance. this one actually is also capable of attacking? >> right. they're still on the front lines today. they're starting to give way to a slightly larger, more capable version called the reaper. >> okay. this guy here is the shadow. correct? it's a much smaller version. >> that's right. for every predator that you see, there is about 25 smaller military drones in service. the shadow is one that gives the troops in the field an eye in the sky. it's small, very hard to detect. but gives them real good, real time information to the troops on the ground. >> this j.u., what's the deal with that? >> this is a look at the future. this is a fully autonomous aircraft. this is one that takes off, flies a mission, delivers a weapon, returns to base all entirely on its own. >> all these cost several million dollars. correct? >> there is a whole range. when you get to reaper size aircraft, you're starting to approach a manned aircraft system like the f-16. >> and finally, the pioneer, this one is really interesting because it's the very first time humans actually surrendered to a

robot. >> that's right. in the gulf war, this aircraft flew off the battleship wisconsin and iraqi soldiers surrounded to it, waved flags to it. >> i'll have to get pictures of that. thank you so much. guys, back to you on the curvy couch. >> steve: ask roger this, i know they've got six drones there. but can people in this country fly and control the drones all the way around the world or do you have to be pretty close to control them? >> you can hear that? >> right. the major drone, predator, for instance, are the ground control station operate in theaters that take off and landing and then the actual missions are flown here in the united states. so the control room may be here with the c.i.a. at langley, but there is a controller that takes the drone off at the airfield in theater. >> but the future of the technology is that it actually could be artificial intelligence even finding the person, right? >> that's right. upupload a target and the aircraft goes on. >> but not currently?

>> not currently. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. >> steve: thanks. of course, there is a story out there that it sounds like somebody provided a drone to look for christopher dorner out west. >> brian: yeah. imagine if it was armed. could you kill him? i think the judge has been scrambled right now. >> gretchen: let's not start that debate. we're going to go to break and we'll be right back. more "fox & friends" three minutes away . . . .. ti. it should be under stephens. the verizon share everything plan for small business.

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>> steve: obviously brian has been book the show. today we had brooklyn decker on and tomorrow we've got sports illustrated swim suit cover girl kate upton on. how did you do that? >> brian: she went back to back years. this will be a reunion 'cause i caught up with her last week. it will be the first time you have a chance to meet her. if you have time, run to the radio. kilmeade and friends.com. tomorrow is the last day we're on sirius. it seems like both companies are clashing. so let sirius know. our guests today, governor bratten, reviewing the state of the union, ed rollins and how do you say this name? bill hemmer.